SUMMARY
What if one of the most powerful healing tools on Earth has been shining on us all along?
In this illuminating episode of the David Avocado Wolfe Podcast, David sits down with Brian Richards, founder of SaunaSpace, for a deep conversation about red light therapy, infrared healing, detoxification, mitochondrial health, nervous system regulation, and the future of frequency medicine.
Brian shares how the majority of the sun’s healing energy actually exists in the near-infrared spectrum — invisible to the eye, yet deeply nourishing to the human body. Together, David and Brian explore how modern indoor living, blue light exposure, and electromagnetic stress disconnect us from this essential biological relationship with light.
They also discuss the origins of SaunaSpace, the development of Brian’s custom FireLight bulbs, the science of incandescent infrared therapy, detoxification strategies using sauna and binders, and the growing role of energy medicine in human health.
Along the way, the conversation expands into spiritual transformation, nervous system healing, cold plunges, nanotechnology detoxification, seasonal depression, grounding, sunlight, and the importance of reconnecting with nature’s rhythms.
This episode is packed with practical wisdom, cutting-edge ideas, and powerful inspiration for anyone seeking greater vitality, clarity, and resilience.
For the next week, loyal listeners of The David Avocado Wolfe Podcast can get an exclusive 15% off when you go to sauna.space and use code AVOCADO at checkout. This exclusive offer ends May 19, 2026 — after that, the discount returns to the standard 10% off.
🥑 EPISODE HIGHLIGHTS
Why Near-Infrared Light Is So Powerful
Over 70% of the sun’s energy exists in the near-infrared spectrum
Near-infrared light penetrates deeply into tissues and cells
Supports mitochondrial function and cellular energy production
Helps promote circulation, recovery, and tissue repair
The Difference Between “FireLight” and LED Red Light Therapy
FireLight technology delivers a broad, continuous light spectrum similar to sunlight
LED light is a narrow, isolated wavelength compared to the “full orchestra” of incandescent light
SaunaSpace bulbs were engineered to maximize near-infrared output and to create biologically coherent light that feels natural to the human body
Blue Light, Flicker, and Nervous System Stress
LED screens emit intense blue light that flickers rapidly, which overstimulates the nervous system
Excessive screen exposure may contribute to fatigue, anxiety, sleep disruption, and mental exhaustion
SaunaSpace products help balance blue light exposure with calming red and near-infrared light, reducing measurable flicker in indoor environments
Sauna Therapy and Detoxification
Sauna therapy supports the body’s natural detoxification pathways
Deep sweating may help eliminate heavy metals, chemicals, and environmental toxins
Heat shock proteins are activated through elevated body temperature
Infrared heat may support detoxification of emerging nanotechnology exposure
Consistent sauna use is associated with increased health span and reduced all-cause mortality
The Emotional and Spiritual Side of Healing
Brian shares how long-term sauna use transformed him emotionally and spiritually
David reflects on the connection between cleansing and spiritual awakening
Detoxification and healing practices can create greater self-awareness and clarity
The conversation emphasizes self-love, presence, and authenticity as part of true wellness.
The History of Light Therapy
Historical pioneers discussed include Dr. John Harvey Kellogg and Dr. Dinshah Ghadiali
Early 20th century practitioners used electric incandescent light baths therapeutically
Modern research now includes thousands of studies on red and near-infrared light therapy
Hot-Cold Therapy and Recovery
Alternating temperature extremes may create a stronger adaptive response in the body
The traditional Finnish “hot-cold-hot” sauna protocol finishes with warmth after cold exposure, which may support metabolism and recovery
Cold plunges alone may not provide the same benefits as combined heat and cold therapy, as temperature variation can stimulate circulation and resilience
Sauna therapy enhances recovery, relaxation, and nervous system balance
Practical Tips
Brian shares that before using the sauna, he often takes substances he considers photodynamic — compounds that interact with light and may amplify the effects of near-infrared exposure:
Chlorophyll
Chlorophyllin
Spirulina
Occasionally methylene blue (used sparingly)
“I usually start out before that by taking chlorophyll, either chlorophyllin or spirulina or some type of really good source of chlorophyll because that it’s photodynamic. So it goes in your body, and the near-infrared light activates it…” ~Brian Richards
After sauna sessions, Brian says he uses binders to help capture and eliminate toxins mobilized during sweating and detoxification:
Zeolite
Dr. Group’s Toxin Binder
Boron-containing binders
“Immediately afterwards I take a binder… charcoal, zeolite, sometimes EDTA… I think that’s really important, especially where we’re at today — not just chemicals, heavy metals, microplastics, it’s also nanotech… Boron is one of the only things that is very helpful for binding and eliminating nanotech.” ~Brian Richards
LINKS & RESOURCES
🔗 Get your own SaunaSpace HERE: Use promo code AVOCADO for 15% off through May 19, 2026 (after May 19, the discount reverts to 10% off)
🔗 Learn more about SaunaSpace here: https://sauna.space/
🔗 Learn more about flickering light: Red Light Heals, Blue Light Steals
🔗 Learn more about biophotons: The Light Within
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🔗 Learn more about Wolfe University & David’s Inner Circle here: university.davidwolfe.com
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Disclaimer:
The views and opinions expressed by our guests are their own and do not necessarily reflect those of the host or the producers of this podcast. The information shared is for educational and informational purposes only and should not be considered medical advice. Always consult a qualified health professional before making changes to your health or lifestyle practices.
